Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Are you giving away your power in some way?
It could be that you're waiting for someone to get back to you in a message. Could be that you want something to change in your life that you can't control.
It could be the government, it could be other people.
There are so many things in our life that aren't exactly the way we want them to be.
And we're just hoping for them to change, hoping for someone else to change, for them to treat us differently, for us to get that thing that we want and it hasn't arrived yet. And all the while we're waiting in a state of distress for that thing to go the way we want it.
So if you've ever done that and you've noticed that, that feeling, that feeling of weakness or feeling of stress or anxiety or worry or even irritation or anger or grief, and there's so much negative feeling comes up when we're giving away our power.
If you felt that way, then you're in the right place, because in this episode we're talking about how to stop giving away your power and how to feel okay with what is and also see the hidden benefit in whatever comes in our life.
So welcome, welcome, welcome to the podcast.
Shireen. Welcome, welcome.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: Hello, Michael.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: What inspired this, this topic? Giving away your power?
Why is this so important?
[00:01:25] Speaker B: Recently I was talking to someone whose 50 year marriage ended and the marriage ended because he wanted to get married to someone younger.
And this person was so upset.
And it is a loss. 50 years is a loss, you know, being with someone for 50 years and then the marriage ends, right?
I mean, it's a deep loss. I'm not negating the loss at all.
But when the person kept talking and eventually after talking for a little bit, the person was telling me how toxic the relationship was and I was thinking, okay, yes, there is a loss here, but every time you feel that this marriage ended and he left because he wanted to marry someone else, you are upset and you're feeling really bad.
But if you think that it was a toxic relationship and it's benefit, right, there's benefit in this, then you will regain the power that you're giving away, which is the original nature of the soul, is to feel that power.
And so many times I feel the sorrow comes from the giving away power, then even from the situation itself, because you're going against the, the original nature of the soul.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: So it's a double, double problem, isn't it? One is giving away power and the other is losing connection to good feelings over there, underneath everything
[00:03:19] Speaker B: Right.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: I mean, I'm sure all of us can think to times in our life where something so called bad thing happened that we definitely didn't like that turned out to be a blessing in disguise later on, whether it's a relationship ending or whether it's some health problem that had opportunity to have massive upgrades in the health, or it could be something like, like I had a situation where my website was hacked for some, what was it, some casino in Turkey.
And turned out to be a huge blessing because now I've upgraded all my websites with, with much better software and much, much more, much more fun, actually. Much easier to manage.
But at the time it seemed like a serious inconvenience and a major pain in the ass. But later on it's great, you know, so it's like I could have grieved that and, you know, why did this happen? And blah, blah, blah, and get caught up in it. But within, I would say within, I found out about it on a Sunday, which I don't, you know, normally work on a Sunday, and one of my team said, the website's down, doesn't work. And I said, what happened? And he said, you got hacked basically, and there's nothing we can do about it. It's. It's like it's beyond repair or you'd have to pay thousands of dollars try and repair it. But I've created this whole new thing straight away. I mean, give it to Dan, Brother Dan. I mean, he just got it done, basically. I mean, no, it wasn't perfect, but it was something. And initially I said, this is ridiculous. We can't just like bl out and do something else. And what about this? And what about this? And I didn't, I didn't like the idea of it. But then I sat down, did a bit of research and I was like, no, there's actually huge benefits to this happening. Like, I could see the benefit, I could see the problem, but I could also see the benefit. And I think within about half an hour I said, let's just do it, let's just swap it all out.
And that's been hugely valuable on a number of levels across loads of different things because I've learned these things, like, what is the hidden secret? What is the hidden benefit? How is this useful?
So I try and get to that as quick as I can. I remember another time I was working in this factory when, just when I came into this spiritual practice about everything being good. And I. It was a night shift and I remember leaving the shift and I must have been like 6 in the morning. It was like 6pm to 6am and I went to get my bike to ride home. It was about 8 mile ride and walk around the back of the place and my bike had gone.
[00:06:03] Speaker B: Yeah, someone stole it.
[00:06:04] Speaker A: I was like, what? I was like, what the hell? It's a brand new, it was one of these cruiser bikes, right? It was like with big handlebars and it was super chill. And I was like, ah, this is such a cool bike. And it was quite his expensive bike.
And I was like, what the hell? Where has it gone? Right. What I'd done is I'd got this huge lock and somehow I'd locked around the bike somehow because it was dark, not in through the. So it was my fault basically.
So someone had seen it, noticed what was going on and so, so the lock was still there. There's no bike.
And it must have like undone the wheel or something and pulled it out and then put it back again. But anyway, it, it was shocking initially, but then I thought, no, there must be some benefit to this. And it turned out there was huge benefit because I had some insurance for it and I got a racing bike, which is much better because I'm driving, I'm like riding eight miles there and back, which is a lot. So I got this other bike way, way, way, way better to ride, way easier to ride, so much more, so much, so much faster.
I mean I could go on and on and on about all these things. Recently I got hacked with another AI system. Someone hacked into my account, started using my AI.
I think just a separate benefit to this is like anyone watching this seriously get two factor security on all your accounts because you're probably going to get hacked if you don't have it.
So this person hacked my account. I was watching it being hacked, all this money being charged and because I had had so many of these hacks, I was, I was actually at peace.
I just was so kind of tired at this that I was just, I didn't have any emotional reaction at all. I was completely neutral and I was like, okay, what do I need to do to fix this?
And it turns out that was good because I don't want that account. I ended up getting a refund, thankfully.
But it just made me realize like, you have to take this stuff seriously. So now a lot of my, all my accounts, as far as I can tell, are on lockdown. So, so there's huge, huge benefit. I mean I can go on and on, relationship situations, money situations, people, health problems.
But in so we have to figure out a way of, of finding the benefit, not giving away our power as quickly as we can because otherwise it can go, oh no, this is so terrible, terrible, terrible. Oh my God, oh my God. For possibly months.
Or we can kind of try and bring it back to now, get the benefit and stop stressing out about it.
Can't say I'm always 100 successful. It doesn't always happen quickly, but it's better than it was. So I'm happy about it. So anyway, just a few stories, but Shireen, tell us how, what's your thoughts on this? How do we.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: One thing I was thinking, giving away our power. One thing I was thinking is you tend to lose power, give away power more in relationships than in like a website getting hacked.
Somehow relationships really hit close to the heart.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah. They get close to the bone.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's very hard. Right.
And when you're in the middle of it, right when I was talking to this lady, she's in the middle of it and she's going through a lot of sorrow.
And I feel that only when you are spiritually looking at your life can you see the real power.
Because perceived power feels like you're powerful. Let's say we'll take this case of a 50 year marriage and let's say the husband listens to her, right. And she feels she has power over her husband.
Actually that's just perceived power.
Because perceived power is telling you first, the other person is listening only because it's convenient for them and it just happens to be convenient that the person is listening.
But everyone really is.
You know, we are in it. We are, we come alone, we go alone. Right. And we have to realize that, that if someone is listening, it's just part of the cosmic play that's going on. And that's with listening. Not because you have power.
But the other reason it's perceived power is because your power is dependent on the other person listening.
And so real power is you are okay with any scene in your life.
And to be really okay with any scene in your life, it has to be very deep spiritual underpinnings of your life.
And I'm not talking about spiritual bypassing, Right. If, I mean, if it's a loss, it's a loss, you grieve the loss, but it can't change your whole life.
Right. It can't be okay now what are other people going to think? And what will they think about me? And now I'm old and this is happening and that's happening. Right. We are giving away so much of power at that time. And whenever I give away my power, there's so much sorrow.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: You can tell someone else, just get over the person. Come on. It was toxic. What are you worried about? But it's not. It's not easy from the inside, Especially in this situation. After 50 years, you know, just to
[00:11:56] Speaker B: say, oh, it doesn't matter, however toxic. No. People are used to toxic relationships.
Then there's the rejection part. It's hard, right? And it's very hard. I mean, I feel for the person, but at least we can begin to heal.
If you take the power back, we begin to heal.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: And what do you think that means taking the power back in this context for this woman, for example?
[00:12:29] Speaker B: Trust, right? Trust that there's benefit in it, Trust that there's a blessing in it, that there has to be a deep trust.
And that's the trust, right? You think you're in a black hole.
And when you start trusting that there's benefit in it, there's a blessing in it, it's almost like you're seeing a semblance of light somewhere, right?
Instead of just a black hole.
And you're walking towards the light very slowly. And that trust is that light that comes into that black hole.
But to really understand that there's blessings for our life, our life is full of blessings, and that we can do well and I will be fine.
You know, there's life afterwards, and it takes time. But at least when you trust, then you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Okay, this light.
[00:13:38] Speaker A: Ah, what a relief. Yeah, it's. It does take. It is like a leap of faith in a way, isn't it? Because at the time, it doesn't seem like there's any benefit. But I think that's why it's important to think about past experiences in various ways in life.
That normally if one relationship ends or something changes, there's some other relationship that can come about, or there's a more importantly, a deeper relationship with ourselves or something we find out that brings us back to our own inner feelings.
That is healing, you know?
[00:14:18] Speaker B: You know, I feel we need to all have a relationship with the self, right? I hope the soul understands that the relationship with the self is very important instead of just getting into another relationship very soon.
Because, I mean, I have my own personal views on relationships. I feel like they're like. It puts you in a cage and people don't realize how used to they are being in cages.
Did I tell you the story of the bear in The San Diego Zoo?
[00:14:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, he got out of a cage and he kept walking around just in his area where the cage was. He couldn't go out.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: So he was alone from some other razoo.
Because somewhere else. He was alone from somewhere else, and he was in a cage, and he kept just walking in this little area. Right. Even though he had a big enclosure.
And so this person asked, why is this bear walking only in this little enclosure, in this little space up and down?
And the zookeeper said, oh, that's a typical caged bear syndrome, because they have been caged that they don't know there's more space, there's bigger space out there.
And so they.
They will not go outside of their.
Outside of their cage, outside of the area that is in their mind.
Right. Even though there is no physical cage, the bear's mind is. That's the only space they have. And I feel that way about relationships, is that people who are used to getting into relationships don't realize how caged it is.
And that for me, I would think that that would be an opportunity to really get to know myself and understand myself instead of getting into another cage. Right. They just keep getting into one cage after another, one cage after another, and they don't even realize they're getting into cages.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's whatever we're used to. We repeat again and again and again, potentially indefinitely, until something else happens.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: There's no freedom in that. There's absolutely no freedom in that.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a. It's a huge topic because it goes back to, you know, unconscious patterns and childhood wounds and copying our parents and, you know, feeling unsafe and wanting to feel safe. And there's. There's a whole bunch of reasons for all these things, isn't there, why it keeps happening again?
[00:17:10] Speaker B: No, I just think it's. People are used to getting into cages because they feel that cage is the only safe space.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: There's a reason behind that.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: No, the cage is the only safe space, really, for them.
They don't. Because they don't understand that there is.
You know, there's open skies and you can walk and you can move and you can fly. There's no. There's no understanding of that because the feeling is safety is. Oh, I was in Mexico recently, and I went to this person's house, very wealthy.
And the house is a museum. Right.
Beautiful, beautiful museum with beautiful little things and everything.
And he was telling me this story that he had two sons. They're grown now, little sons. And when the sons were Little that the grandmother gave the two sons two parrots.
And there was a cage, right? There was a cage in the garden with the two parrots. There were no parrots in the cage, but the cage was there. And he was telling me what happened with the parrots.
So one day there was a flock of carrots who came, and they came close to these two parrots in the cage. The parrots were in the cage, and the flock of carrots came. And one of the parrots came and sat down and they chatted.
Then they went back again. They came the next day, chatted, went back. And so his brother is watching these parrots, right?
And then he decided he cannot keep these parrots in cages anymore. And they had feathers, they had everything. They weren't clipped.
And so they opened the. Open the cage.
And he opened the cage to let the parrots go.
And so when he opened the cage, one of the parrots which was outside flew into the cage and again had a chat, right?
And the two parrots would not move from the cage.
And it took three days for the parrots outside to.
Whatever conversation they were having, three days to. Because the parrots felt safe in the cage. They had food in the cage. They had all of those things. And it took three days for the parrots outside to convince the two parrots inside the cage to come out and fly.
So they came out and they flew around and they were just. The cage was open. They were just flying around for a few days.
And then eventually the two parrots in the cage and the parrots outside, everything flew away.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Wow, that's pretty quick, relatively, to three days.
Yeah, but you'd. It's like, you'd think, why didn't they just immediately run out of the cage?
[00:20:21] Speaker B: Because they thought that was safety. Right? You were talking about safety.
[00:20:24] Speaker A: No, of course, yeah, no, of course. No. There's a reason, we think.
I mean, I've. I've had to catch rats because, like, I don't really want to kill them when they get poisoned. And then they smell bad, right? So I thought, I'll get like a. I have a couple of cages and so I can catch them. They come in this cage and they're obviously wanting to get out straight away. These are wild rats, these little rats.
So they come in, they go for the peanut butter, and then it snaps shut and they can't. I'm not. I'm not killing them. Then I have to go and drive down the road because if there's too close, I'll just come back here and Then I let them out somewhere in nature, a nice place for them, and open it up, and they immediately run out because. And you can see them when I've caught them, right? They're like climbing upside down on the cage. They want to get out. Like, if they could bite their way through, they would do it.
But that's because they were free rats until they got trapped. But these parrots have been in there a long time, so they got used to it. And we've been in this stuff a much, much, much, much time. We don't even know. And also, there's no bars, is there? This is an invisible cage.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: It's an invisible cage.
And what I've noticed is, you know, the many ways we give away our power. Right. But one way I feel, relationships really cut deep. Also. Relationships really bring out the prison for us because it brings out all our insecurities.
But eventually every relationship becomes a cage. I haven't seen a single one which isn't. So it might be, oh, I'm feeling safe for now. I need to feel safe for now, this and that. But first, I'm giving away my power, right? I'm not even noticing my freedom. What is my freedom here? What is it that I need to know about myself? I'm not noticing any of those things.
I'm giving away my power first.
But it's a very temporary instant gratification to think, oh, this is where I'm going to feel safe. No, it's not. Your old patterns come back. Everything comes back.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not. It's.
It's temporary relief for the inner child, isn't it, to feel safe, you know, get some need, but it doesn't last very long. And then it's back to their usual madness and then trying to get it somewhere else from somebody else or some other way.
Yeah. Relationships is a major learning curve in one way or the other. Even if it's not romantic, just any relationship, you know, it comes. Something comes up after a while.
You know, I think some people. I was talking to a friend of mine about this.
I grew up in a situation where I felt like I had to be, to some degree or to a large degree, quite independent.
I. I didn't have that much attachment. I mean, maybe I did, but I kind of felt like I had to, like, be an adult younger than I would like to.
And other people, maybe they got.
They were so attached to their parents because they. They kind of had that relationship with them that they find it hard to be unattached. Right. So there's either one or the other, and there's benefit in both.
So some people, they're so attached and now they have to learn to not be attached. And other people didn't get very attached and now they have to learn how to like, be in relationship and have a little bit more attachment in a healthy way.
Do you know? I mean, because it's. Because there can be either extreme.
And I think a lot of people in the west have kind of didn't get parenting, so they didn't get used to being attached, and now they're not.
Jimmy Everything's a little bit standoffish.
So these are major complicated psychological issues
[00:24:30] Speaker B: we're dealing with, you know, going back to giving away our power. Right. So like I was saying, I was recently in Mexico and I went to this indigenous ceremony and it was near an archaeological site, and the archaeological site had several pyramids, and they were going to do the ceremony in between the pyramids. And apparently the ceremony happens once in every 52 years.
So the last time they did the ceremony, they did it in the site itself, right near the pyramid.
Now, 52 years later, the Mexican government said, no, you can't do this ceremony at the site.
You have to do it outside.
And so I didn't know all this. I went there to look at the ceremony, and I'm looking at the ceremony and they're giving speeches after speeches and everyone is so upset, so upset with the government.
And not only so upset with the government, right. And there were many indigenous communities from many tribes there and also from many countries.
And they were speaking several languages, not just Spanish, you know, different languages they were speaking.
And they were very upset.
And I don't know what the solution is in this case.
But one thing I do know, every time I'm upset, it doesn't matter who I'm upset about. It doesn't matter if I'm justified being upset.
I will give away my power because someone else is now responsible for me feeling okay. And that is definitely giving away power.
[00:26:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's a. It's a very unpleasant experience on any level, isn't it? Giving. I'm only going to be happy when this person does something for me.
And until they do, I'm just. I'm not happy, I'm not content.
And it's actually quite a burden to put on other people, isn't it? In a way. Because if. If I think so and so has to get back to me and do this, this and this and blah, blah, blah, and they have to etcetera etc and I got this long list of things.
Not only is it unpleasant for me to do that because I feel stressed out most of the time unless I get what I want, but it's also a terrible burden to post on someone else. You know, it's like saying I'm burdening you with my happiness and you have to do all these things and you're responsible for my well being. It's very, very, very hard thing for someone to live up to because they have their own life, they have their own needs, they have their own stuff going on. So it's a double problem. It's a problem for the person who's being burdened with it and it's definitely a problem for us.
And yeah, I mean this is going on in so many levels, in so many different relationships, on so many situations that it's just absolutely, I feel drained even just thinking about how many layers there are.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: It's like, right, right.
[00:27:47] Speaker A: Just tuning into this stuff.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: The gift, giving away power is so every time I feel I need something to be okay, whether it's a relationship, whether it's an institution like the Mexican government, they must have had their reasons, right? I'm not saying there's an easy solution to it, but one thing for sure is me being upset is not going to find the solution.
And, and I feel people don't know how to live free.
They really don't know how to live free.
Like people think they like freedom, but they don't know how to live.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: Well. That's something we're not taught, isn't it? I mean we can't blame anyone for this. We're not taught these things and even if we are taught them, it's having to undo enormous amounts of programming to, to get out of it.
When we live in a society, an open mental hospital, which is basically what we're in, we're all having weird things going on in various ways and expecting the world to give us what we want all the time and it doesn't work out and it keeps not working out and then we get upset and then we blame other people and it just goes round around.
So this is very high level work that we have to undo and then redo something, isn't it? From the past
[00:29:25] Speaker B: one.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: So Shireen has a method here. Meth. You've written a book about this, haven't you? Recently Just come out, is that right? You've written a book on this?
[00:29:32] Speaker B: Freedom from what we're thinking. Trust your mind from overthinking.
[00:29:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: And that's not exactly in the book, but I'm happy that you're doing.
You're doing a commercial for my book.
Commercial for my book.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: Commercial for book. And now, everybody, we want to recommend this wonderful new book that's just come up.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: It's called Free youe Mind From Overthinking. Discover the Power of Trust, which is not. Actually this particular thing is not in the book.
The book is about trust, which.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: But is the book going to solve this problem?
[00:30:05] Speaker B: The book will solve every problem. It will solve your overthinking problem.
[00:30:09] Speaker A: Every problem.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: The big book will solve any problem, which is the major major problem.
[00:30:19] Speaker A: The major, major problem. So let's. So we. We all have something where we're giving our power away, whether it's a person or a situation. I mean, there's endless ways we can give away our.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: And also my own internal programming, right? I'm buying into an internal programming. I'm buying into programming of my childhood. I'm buying into so many things which is not good for us. And every time we keep giving away our power.
Okay, the first thing we need is trust that whatever has happened in our lives so far is for benefit.
Second thing we need is we need to learn to live in freedom. We need to learn to live free, because that is the original state of the soul.
Like, we come out of a cage and then we go back into a cage, and again we come out of a cage and go back into the cage. I mean, how many times are we going to do this?
It's just not good for the soul to keep doing that.
And the third one is we need to watch just ourselves and everything around us. As detached observers.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: There must be benefit in everything. Is that what you mean, detached observer?
[00:31:45] Speaker B: Just watch. No, just watch.
Whatever needs to happen will happen.
You just watch.
There doesn't need to be a story attached to it. There doesn't need to be an interpretation.
We need to learn this because it's a fine art and it's a valuable art.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: It's a hugely valuable thing to be able to just sit there and say, okay, let me see what happens next. There's a nice quote, isn't it? Wait. Wait and see. Wait and see. Just sit back.
I also find related to this is if I'm feeling emotionally disturbed about something because I've given away my power and I want it to be the way I want it, and it isn't way the way I want it. Just to ask, what is this? What is this thing really upselling me about?
Is it because I'm Trying to control something.
Is it because I'm trying to get security?
You know, what is it really like? Because it wouldn't bother me if I wasn't something in me that this is affecting.
Because there's lots of things in life. Like let's say for example, someone like in the next town has a construction project going on, right? It doesn't bother me at all. I mean, I don't even know who they are, but if my neighbor has construction going on, which they do, and there's all this bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. I'm just trying to sit out here, drink my tea. It's so annoying.
It's, it's a. I'm giving away my power because I don't like the fact that my peace is being disturbed. Physically speaking.
If, if it wasn't, if it wasn't affecting me in any way, let's say that they were making a bunch of noise, but somehow they had some wall up or some weird thing and I couldn't hear it, then I didn't, wouldn't care, you know.
So having the capacity just to say, I'm gonna just allow this, this situation to be what it is and I'm not going to try and change anything and I'm okay with it as it is.
I don't need it to change for me.
That's being a detached observer, isn't it?
I can just allow it to come up. I can allow it to be what it is. I'm not trying to change it. I don't need it to change for me.
And it's all right.
And then it doesn't actually bother me. Like they, there's all these weird banging noises going on all the time.
I can't say that it has no effect on me at all. But I've kind of got to the point where I can't change it. What am I going to do? Go down there and demand that they stop their construction? I mean, I think they're building some sort of like irrigation system.
Good for them, you know, like, why does, should it bother me?
So I've just like, okay, let me just be okay with it. And I can get to a point where I hear the noise, but I don't emotionally feel disturbed because I've stopped trying to control anything.
And same with other people. If they're going to get back to me, not go back to me, say this thing, say that thing. Don't say this thing, don't say that thing. Think can I be all right with it as it is without trying to Change it.
Ah, what a joy. What a joy.
This is a very, very deep thing. It's very, very deep thing.
So you don't feel anyone should have to do anything or have to not do anything for you, Shereen?
[00:35:27] Speaker B: For me, I mean, I have my fair share of stuff, but I watch as a detached observer. I mean, I watch myself as a detached observer.
I watch my reactions as a detached observer. I don't get involved in that. Like, I separate myself and say, okay, this is the reaction. Good to know. Good to know information.
And the second thing I do is I take a spiritual practice, like a drill, a spiritual drill.
And every time this situation is coming to bother me, I think of it as a bell that I have to do this spiritual practice.
And honestly, it feels like a lot of work, and it is a lot of work, but it's the only method that's really helped.
[00:36:25] Speaker A: Yeah, so we were talking earlier. It's either detached and loving or unattached and loving or. Or attached or needy and miserable, isn't it?
We can be needy and miserable or we can be detached and loving, you know, and. And it really, what it comes down to is, is can I give up trying to control everything the way I like it?
Me, me, me. Has to be the way I like it.
Or can I just allow everyone to be the.
[00:36:56] Speaker B: It's a myth, right? No one, no one will behave the way you want them to behave.
Absolutely no one.
That's a myth.
If they are, it just so happens to be they are.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: But it's convenient for them.
[00:37:17] Speaker B: Two weeks from now, maybe not.
And then I'm giving away my powerful. What
[00:37:24] Speaker A: can we give up trying? Wanting to control and trying to control
[00:37:28] Speaker B: other people more than even trying to control other people, I need to understand.
That's my original nature.
My original nature is powerful. My original nature is peace.
So let's say someone is banging.
Your neighbor is banging.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: Not just banging, banging with circular saws as well.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: Circular saws, banging. Ouch. That is painful.
[00:38:02] Speaker A: That's the best sound, that one.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: The discomfort you're feeling is not just the noise.
The discomfort you're feeling is because you're going away from your own peace.
And no one can put you back in your peace except yourself.
What do you think?
[00:38:29] Speaker A: So what is the.
What is the solution to all this, Shereen, going forward, if someone wants to.
[00:38:35] Speaker B: Two things, right?
[00:38:36] Speaker A: Finally.
[00:38:37] Speaker B: Okay, we did say trust, because there's endless situations. Endless situations, right? We have to trust.
Which part of it is spiritually accepting certain things? We have to trust.
We have to Learn to live in freedom.
Live free. Right? Just live free.
We have to learn to do that.
And no one can teach you. You have to decide that my old patterns are not going to get the better of me.
Two, three, watch as a detached observer. Just watch.
And so you could actually take a situation that's uncomfortable and learn to watch as a detached observer.
[00:39:23] Speaker A: It's the. It's the trying to control and have things the way I like them. This causing all the stress, isn't it? Because I don't need that because I'm already safe on a deeper level.
But as soon as I think I'm not safe and I have to control the world, then I'm in serious trouble because it never ends.
[00:39:43] Speaker B: You want to lead us on a practice, Michael?
[00:39:48] Speaker A: Yeah, we can do a little, little practice. So just think of something that is somewhat disturbing to you. Could be a person. Why did they not get back to your message yet? How come they're ignoring you? Could be, you know, could be anything.
Most likely a relationship issue.
And first step is trust that there's benefit in everything.
What. What if there's benefit in them being like that way? What if there's benefit in it being exactly the way it is?
What if there's hidden secrets to this situation?
And then come back to yourself as a spiritual being and your natural nature is to be free so you. To be peaceful, to be relaxed, That you're safe and relaxed anyway underneath everything, And then come into the feeling that you're watching as a witness, as a observer, that everything's happening as it's meant to, and you're not trying to control it, you're just watching it.
Just let it be exactly as it is, however it is, without trying to change or control anything, No resistance to whatever it is.
And then you're curious, curious about how this is going to turn out. And either way, you're fine because you're back in your state of self respect, self awareness, higher consciousness.
And how is this all going to work out for your highest good?
So there we have it. This is a very deep practice.
There's multiple levels to this. It's not one of these. This is advanced stuff. We talk about lots of advanced things in these trainings, in these podcasts, but even any one of these things we've been talking about, if you practice it a little bit, you'll feel a little bit of space from it.
Any final thoughts, Shireen?
[00:43:20] Speaker B: That was beautiful.
Learn to live free.
If I were to give one advice to everyone, that would be it.
We cage ourselves with our own thoughts, with our own feelings. We have to learn to live free.
Blessing.
[00:43:53] Speaker A: Blessings.
Yeah. What does that even mean? It's worth even asking the question. What does it mean to live free for you personally, for each person. You know what. What does it mean? So let's have a blessing.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: God's blessing for you. Beauty.
You cultivate beauty. By looking through your spiritual lens and capturing moments of grace with admiration, you can see that all of life is connected.
You've come to grasp the divine order and find peace in its inherent perfection.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: Ah, there it is.
Even with banging noises.
[00:44:38] Speaker B: Find peace in its inherent perfection.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: Ah.
So try it out. Try out these different things. See what works for you, leave what doesn't and let us know what you think.
I would love to hear from you in the comments if you have any questions or any thoughts.
What's the situation that stressed you out? And how have you come to that freedom, not giving away your power?
Have a beautiful day, beautiful week, and we will talk to you in the next episode. Lots of love and many blessings.